By Michelle Shireen Muri, Freedom Conspiracy Principal and CCF co-chair

Episode Summary

What’s up with the controversies around Patagonia’s generosity? Fraud in Captain Tom’s household? BrewDog’s shock tactics and hypocrisy? Tokenism of Indigenous Tribes at Forterra? Michelle is discussing shock tactics, wealth hoarding, trust issues and more, with “The UK’s most influential fundraiser,” Andy King!

Episode Notes

“If you’re giving back, maybe you should just stop taking.” Wow, so much to say about current events in the world of nonprofits and philanthropy including ridiculous claims and unethical, dishonest behavior from UK’s famous BrewDog, dishonest partnership and tokenization at Forterra in Seattle, the relationship between extractive practices, power hoarding and Patagonia, and beloved Captain Tom and his daughter, mourning through greed! Show notes can be found at

Learn about upcoming collaborations between Michelle and guests like Andy King, Mallory Mitchell, Fleur Larsen, Rachel D’Souza and more at

About the Ethical Rainmaker podcast

In the United States alone, philanthropy is a $427 million dollar industry, of which 68% comes from individual donors. Yet the practices, theories, and foundation of modern philanthropy and fundraising often ignore the ways in which the industry perpetuates harm.

The Ethical Rainmaker, hosted by Michelle Shireen Muri, is a podcast that hosts authentic conversations grappling with the questions that we don’t often ask in the nonprofit world. Join us as we explore some of the practices that undermine our missions and navigate the way forward with today’s resisters, reimaginers, and the re-creators of the third sector. It’s time to think differently.

Michelle Shireen Muri

Michelle Shireen Muri

Michelle Shireen Muri (she/her) is the co-chair of the founding Seattle chapter for Community-Centric Fundraising and the host of the podcast, The Ethical Rainmaker. She is the founder of Freedom Conspiracy, a small collective of fundraising consultants focused on bringing values-aligned practices to clients in the nonprofit and philanthropy spaces. @freedomconspiracy on Instagram. You can send her a tip via Patreon.